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T O P I C R E V I E WThermidorThe question is on the title, could you tell me what's the differences between sun in 10th house and moon in 10th house ?I think particularly about position in Virgo, but if you're not so precise, it's ok.Thank you.athenegoddessMoon in the tenth is more public then then Sun. Its like the public sees everything about your life and everything is in full display. Michael Jackson has Moon in the tenth house. Sun in the tenth house is more balanced. Its able to express itself a lot better. And it doesn't always necessarily mean fame but the career is excellent either way.GrahamI have natal Moon in Cancer/10th ... so reply to this by linking you to the article at http://www.astrology42.com/10th-house/ Someone with Sun in Cancer/10th would have replied by "expressing in his/her own words" the content of that article.So ... if (say) he/she is angry with you ... the Sun in 10th person will write "I am annoyed with you because ------", whilst the Moon in 10th person will just link you to the emoticon.And, a person with 10th house Sun or Moon in perfectionist Virgo would have spent time making a better job of this reply than has my Moon in Cancer/10th. TensionEmpireAnd here is the 10th house Cāncer Sun \o/ThermidorInteresting. And which one is the best for career and intellectual fame ?mee_chryssaThe Moon, I think for fame. Thou, the Sun is a good placement too. I have Sun, Mercury and Venus in the 10th house. I'm not famous. YET!! lolPhoenixRisingMichael Jackson has a first moon house not the 10th. http://www.astro.com/cgi/chart.cgi?wgid=wgeJxdjkEKwjAQRU8jWJhCkja2NWThqijoRsT1tClNqYnSpITe3gRcuRnefB4zP0zzJJkYjUQqrJIX7Gf3tnCdeo3Da8fInja8zsAAa6CGtMRxLArQPMCICgi0uGxwviX5cc-grgKjUF JbHGAFyisCOeMlIUAEqs6iGeT__Qi_10lR6AfJmhie1nF1PkKyROe3T2xrvJbog9BukzkVi5P02X4BsPo6UQPhoenixRisingI still couldn't find out why the western charts shows 10 in place of 4 as the Vedic charts do. Vedic is correct because the planets move anticlockwise when a person on the Norther n hemisphere looks up. You should number them anticlockwise. Thoughts?Does it explain why you are not famous.mee_chryssaSo my Moon is in the 5th house?And Sun, Mercury and Venus in the 4th house?I dont quite see it being like this.Kannon McAfeeThermidor, it's quite simple. Sun in the 10th is ambition, the life force urges the person to aim high, to accomplish substantive achievements, to meet goals. The person generally orients their energies to bring their best efforts, put their best on display. Sun is strong in that house.Moon in the 10th is sensitivity/receptivity to the world generally, but can be a person tuning in to the needs of the public. However, it is not as strong in this house as the Sun and can involve the person being less aware of their personal needs and more oriented to getting along, getting others approval.------------------Soul Stars Astrology by The Declinations Guy:Expert birth chart rectificationRandallBump!GalacticCoreExplosion Have found that 10th House energies, especially in a Planetary sense, besides relating to career and the usual interpretation, can also represent energies that we gradually change or grow to over time as we mature, if we mature and grow in a Soul level. Sort of like, you come in with a certain Planet predominant, plus a set relatively strong, and your Soul and especially Higher self level, has this goal of moving in the direction of a Planet in the 10th House or conjunct the MC from the 9th (if there is one). Sun is an interesting symbol as if one has the prerequisite very strong attunement to Neptune, Pisces, and/or especially Jupiter (i.e. the violet--purple spectrum), the Sun can indicate a rather fast vibratory and spiritualized expression. Relatively few people operate at this expanded Solar level. These are people that channel/live their Higher self pretty regularly. Not spiritually perfected yet, but do not have to be in this system--including the earth/human connected afterlife/nonphysical dimensions. But otherwise, the Sun correlates to a more Leo like and slower vibratory expression. If thinking in terms of aura, the expanded Sun would correlate with golden light in the aura. The lower octave and more common version of the Sun (and Leo) is more like a high orange--i.e. a yellowey orange. Most have a good handle on what Lunar energy symbolizes and correlates to. No need to really go into that, except that I will say the Moon is overly put on a pedestal by a number of folks. Ugg, allowing self to be pulled back into the Pink Hole overmuch, maybe cold phoenix...is the way to go after all...DecimaLife quote:Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion: Have found that 10th House energies, especially in a Planetary sense, besides relating to career and the usual interpretation, can also represent energies that we gradually change or grow to over time as we mature, [b]if we mature and grow in a Soul level. Sort of like, you come in with a certain Planet predominant, plus a set relatively strong, and your Soul and especially Higher self level, has this goal of moving in the direction of a Planet in the 10th House or conjunct the MC from the 9th (if there is one). Sun is an interesting symbol as if one has the prerequisite very strong attunement to Neptune, Pisces, and/or especially Jupiter (i.e. the violet--purple spectrum), the Sun can indicate a rather fast vibratory and spiritualized expression. Relatively few people operate at this expanded Solar level. These are people that channel/live their Higher self pretty regularly. Not spiritually perfected yet, but do not have to be in this system--including the earth/human connected afterlife/nonphysical dimensions. But otherwise, the Sun correlates to a more Leo like and slower vibratory expression. If thinking in terms of aura, the expanded Sun would correlate with golden light in the aura. The lower octave and more common version of the Sun (and Leo) is more like a high orange--i.e. a yellowey orange. Most have a good handle on what Lunar energy symbolizes and correlates to. No need to really go into that, except that I will say the Moon is overly put on a pedestal by a number of folks. Ugg, allowing self to be pulled back into the Pink Hole overmuch, maybe cold phoenix...is the way to go after all...[/B]I have sun and jupiter both in pisces and 10th house. This means I will grow into my pisces sun and jupiter more when I am old ?athenegoddessSun doesn't like being in Pisces, so there will be some set backs. But Jupiter makes things profoundly easier. Pisces is more passive in energy so maybe you are confused about your career? Do you like medicine? DecimaLife quote:Originally posted by athenegoddess:Sun doesn't like being in Pisces, so there will be some set backs. But Jupiter makes things profoundly easier. Pisces is more passive in energy so maybe you are confused about your career? Do you like medicine? My job is related to computers (Aquarius MC),and yes there is some confusion about career. Maybe it is also from South node in 10th (pisces), I don't know.Ami AnneSun is the ego and main kind of thrust of the person. The Moon is the heart. The Sun in the 10th would have a drive in career and to achieve a place in society. The moon would have his heart in this same place. It is about WHICH part of the person is represented by which planet.I have moon in the 10th--really conj the MC from the 9th---and I always wanted a career in order for my heart to be full------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE. http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/GalacticCoreExplosion quote:Originally posted by DecimaLife:I have sun and jupiter both in pisces and 10th house. This means I will grow into my pisces sun and jupiter more when I am old ? No, focus on the Planets more than the Sign. Meaning, you came in with some strong Pisces patterns and tendencies (Sun and Jupiter in)--that is irrespective of the highlighting of the Planets. But because the Sun and Jupiter are in such a strongly amplifying area of the chart (2nd only to the ASC and 1st House--the amplifier par excellence), and in an area that signifies towards the developing, then as you grow older and hopefully more mature, centered, balanced, more Loving, etc, you will start to attune to and express the Solar and Jupiter energies more as to their Planetary nature regardless of the Sign involved. This will especially be the case if you find a career or calling that is more positive service to others oriented i.e. more focused on making a positive difference in the world than just purely monetary accumulation. This combo btw, indicates that you likely have very real potential towards the more rare attunement to the Sun AS IS i.e. the golden light energy of the Sun, and not the high orange of a more Leo like attunement, which is a lower octave and is more common when the Sun is highlighted some. I probably sound like a broken record, but in mainstream, pop astrology, there is FAR too much focus on the Signs. There is a very good reason why Edgar Cayce's guidance, and most of the ancients (speaking more of the west as I am much less familiar with Vedic, Chinese, etc), only focused a bit on Signs and put most of the focus on the Planetary strengths (especially by Angularity or strong connection to the Chart ruler). And we see this in modern times with the only statistical, scientific research studies that have ever found any merit in astrology, being Planetary based and NOT Sign. A good chunk of astrology being passed around in the mainstream is crap, shallow, one dimensional astrology. Why, because talking and thinking about Signs is easier than understanding all the in depth, deeper layers of the chart. Signs generally correspond to the more wavering, personality part/level of us, whereas the strongest Planets correspond more to the deeper, more Soul and consistent character parts of us. Use Signs more for young and immature Souls--especially those approaching the narcissistic type spectrum. Focus more on Planets for middle aged to older Souls. Granted, of course in both cases, both still need to be considered, but we're talking the relative weight of consideration. Sun is potentially, and at it's core, a faster vibratory symbol than Pisces. Pisces, Jupiter, and/or Neptune are the gateways, doors, or stepping stones to the Sun in all its glory--as becoming a conscious Son/Daughter of the Most High. When a Soul gets to the Sun, they become aware of the choice to leave this system of energies/dimensions to go into greater, more expanded, and faster vibratory systems (usually via Arcturus, which is like a more powerful and more refined version of our Star, the Sun). DecimaLife quote:Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion: No, focus on the Planets more than the Sign. Meaning, you came in with some strong Pisces patterns and tendencies (Sun and Jupiter in)--that is irrespective of the highlighting of the Planets. But because the Sun and Jupiter are in such a strongly amplifying area of the chart (2nd only to the ASC and 1st House--the amplifier par excellence), and in an area that signifies towards the developing, then as you grow older and hopefully more mature, centered, balanced, more Loving, etc, you will start to attune to and express the Solar and Jupiter energies more as to their Planetary nature regardless of the Sign involved. This will especially be the case if you find a career or calling that is more positive service to others oriented i.e. more focused on making a positive difference in the world than just purely monetary accumulation. This combo btw, indicates that you likely have very real potential towards the more rare attunement to the Sun AS IS i.e. the golden light energy of the Sun, and not the high orange of a more Leo like attunement, which is a lower octave and is more common when the Sun is highlighted some. I probably sound like a broken record, but in mainstream, pop astrology, there is FAR too much focus on the Signs. There is a very good reason why Edgar Cayce's guidance, and most of the ancients (speaking more of the west as I am much less familiar with Vedic, Chinese, etc), only focused a bit on Signs and put most of the focus on the Planetary strengths (especially by Angularity or strong connection to the Chart ruler). And we see this in modern times with the only statistical, scientific research studies that have ever found any merit in astrology, being Planetary based and NOT Sign. A good chunk of astrology being passed around in the mainstream is crap, shallow, one dimensional astrology. Why, because talking and thinking about Signs is easier than understanding all the in depth, deeper layers of the chart. Signs generally correspond to the more wavering, personality part/level of us, whereas the strongest Planets correspond more to the deeper, more Soul and consistent character parts of us. Use Signs more for young and immature Souls--especially those approaching the narcissistic type spectrum. Focus more on Planets for middle aged to older Souls. Granted, of course in both cases, both still need to be considered, but we're talking the relative weight of consideration. Sun is potentially, and at it's core, a faster vibratory symbol than Pisces. Pisces, Jupiter, and/or Neptune are the gateways, doors, or stepping stones to the Sun in all its glory--as becoming a conscious Son/Daughter of the Most High. When a Soul gets to the Sun, they become aware of the choice to leave this system of energies/dimensions to go into greater, more expanded, and faster vibratory systems (usually via Arcturus, which is like a more powerful and more refined version of our Star, the Sun). Reading this was very helpful. Very detailed and descriptive... Thank you. GalacticCoreExplosion You're welcome. RandallBump!RandallBump!
Thank you.
Someone with Sun in Cancer/10th would have replied by "expressing in his/her own words" the content of that article.
So ... if (say) he/she is angry with you ... the Sun in 10th person will write "I am annoyed with you because ------", whilst the Moon in 10th person will just link you to the emoticon.
And, a person with 10th house Sun or Moon in perfectionist Virgo would have spent time making a better job of this reply than has my Moon in Cancer/10th.
Does it explain why you are not famous.
I dont quite see it being like this.
Moon in the 10th is sensitivity/receptivity to the world generally, but can be a person tuning in to the needs of the public. However, it is not as strong in this house as the Sun and can involve the person being less aware of their personal needs and more oriented to getting along, getting others approval.
------------------Soul Stars Astrology by The Declinations Guy:Expert birth chart rectification
Sort of like, you come in with a certain Planet predominant, plus a set relatively strong, and your Soul and especially Higher self level, has this goal of moving in the direction of a Planet in the 10th House or conjunct the MC from the 9th (if there is one).
Sun is an interesting symbol as if one has the prerequisite very strong attunement to Neptune, Pisces, and/or especially Jupiter (i.e. the violet--purple spectrum), the Sun can indicate a rather fast vibratory and spiritualized expression. Relatively few people operate at this expanded Solar level. These are people that channel/live their Higher self pretty regularly. Not spiritually perfected yet, but do not have to be in this system--including the earth/human connected afterlife/nonphysical dimensions.
But otherwise, the Sun correlates to a more Leo like and slower vibratory expression. If thinking in terms of aura, the expanded Sun would correlate with golden light in the aura. The lower octave and more common version of the Sun (and Leo) is more like a high orange--i.e. a yellowey orange.
Most have a good handle on what Lunar energy symbolizes and correlates to. No need to really go into that, except that I will say the Moon is overly put on a pedestal by a number of folks.
Ugg, allowing self to be pulled back into the Pink Hole overmuch, maybe cold phoenix...is the way to go after all...
quote:Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion: Have found that 10th House energies, especially in a Planetary sense, besides relating to career and the usual interpretation, can also represent energies that we gradually change or grow to over time as we mature, [b]if we mature and grow in a Soul level. Sort of like, you come in with a certain Planet predominant, plus a set relatively strong, and your Soul and especially Higher self level, has this goal of moving in the direction of a Planet in the 10th House or conjunct the MC from the 9th (if there is one). Sun is an interesting symbol as if one has the prerequisite very strong attunement to Neptune, Pisces, and/or especially Jupiter (i.e. the violet--purple spectrum), the Sun can indicate a rather fast vibratory and spiritualized expression. Relatively few people operate at this expanded Solar level. These are people that channel/live their Higher self pretty regularly. Not spiritually perfected yet, but do not have to be in this system--including the earth/human connected afterlife/nonphysical dimensions. But otherwise, the Sun correlates to a more Leo like and slower vibratory expression. If thinking in terms of aura, the expanded Sun would correlate with golden light in the aura. The lower octave and more common version of the Sun (and Leo) is more like a high orange--i.e. a yellowey orange. Most have a good handle on what Lunar energy symbolizes and correlates to. No need to really go into that, except that I will say the Moon is overly put on a pedestal by a number of folks. Ugg, allowing self to be pulled back into the Pink Hole overmuch, maybe cold phoenix...is the way to go after all...[/B]
Ugg, allowing self to be pulled back into the Pink Hole overmuch, maybe cold phoenix...is the way to go after all...[/B]
quote:Originally posted by athenegoddess:Sun doesn't like being in Pisces, so there will be some set backs. But Jupiter makes things profoundly easier. Pisces is more passive in energy so maybe you are confused about your career? Do you like medicine?
------------------ Want to Read Simple, Fun,Sexy Articles on Astrology? Check Me Out, DUDE.
http://www.mychristianpsychic.com/
quote:Originally posted by DecimaLife:I have sun and jupiter both in pisces and 10th house. This means I will grow into my pisces sun and jupiter more when I am old ?
No, focus on the Planets more than the Sign. Meaning, you came in with some strong Pisces patterns and tendencies (Sun and Jupiter in)--that is irrespective of the highlighting of the Planets.
But because the Sun and Jupiter are in such a strongly amplifying area of the chart (2nd only to the ASC and 1st House--the amplifier par excellence), and in an area that signifies towards the developing, then as you grow older and hopefully more mature, centered, balanced, more Loving, etc, you will start to attune to and express the Solar and Jupiter energies more as to their Planetary nature regardless of the Sign involved. This will especially be the case if you find a career or calling that is more positive service to others oriented i.e. more focused on making a positive difference in the world than just purely monetary accumulation.
This combo btw, indicates that you likely have very real potential towards the more rare attunement to the Sun AS IS i.e. the golden light energy of the Sun, and not the high orange of a more Leo like attunement, which is a lower octave and is more common when the Sun is highlighted some.
I probably sound like a broken record, but in mainstream, pop astrology, there is FAR too much focus on the Signs. There is a very good reason why Edgar Cayce's guidance, and most of the ancients (speaking more of the west as I am much less familiar with Vedic, Chinese, etc), only focused a bit on Signs and put most of the focus on the Planetary strengths (especially by Angularity or strong connection to the Chart ruler).
And we see this in modern times with the only statistical, scientific research studies that have ever found any merit in astrology, being Planetary based and NOT Sign. A good chunk of astrology being passed around in the mainstream is crap, shallow, one dimensional astrology. Why, because talking and thinking about Signs is easier than understanding all the in depth, deeper layers of the chart.
Signs generally correspond to the more wavering, personality part/level of us, whereas the strongest Planets correspond more to the deeper, more Soul and consistent character parts of us. Use Signs more for young and immature Souls--especially those approaching the narcissistic type spectrum. Focus more on Planets for middle aged to older Souls. Granted, of course in both cases, both still need to be considered, but we're talking the relative weight of consideration.
Sun is potentially, and at it's core, a faster vibratory symbol than Pisces. Pisces, Jupiter, and/or Neptune are the gateways, doors, or stepping stones to the Sun in all its glory--as becoming a conscious Son/Daughter of the Most High. When a Soul gets to the Sun, they become aware of the choice to leave this system of energies/dimensions to go into greater, more expanded, and faster vibratory systems (usually via Arcturus, which is like a more powerful and more refined version of our Star, the Sun).
quote:Originally posted by GalacticCoreExplosion: No, focus on the Planets more than the Sign. Meaning, you came in with some strong Pisces patterns and tendencies (Sun and Jupiter in)--that is irrespective of the highlighting of the Planets. But because the Sun and Jupiter are in such a strongly amplifying area of the chart (2nd only to the ASC and 1st House--the amplifier par excellence), and in an area that signifies towards the developing, then as you grow older and hopefully more mature, centered, balanced, more Loving, etc, you will start to attune to and express the Solar and Jupiter energies more as to their Planetary nature regardless of the Sign involved. This will especially be the case if you find a career or calling that is more positive service to others oriented i.e. more focused on making a positive difference in the world than just purely monetary accumulation. This combo btw, indicates that you likely have very real potential towards the more rare attunement to the Sun AS IS i.e. the golden light energy of the Sun, and not the high orange of a more Leo like attunement, which is a lower octave and is more common when the Sun is highlighted some. I probably sound like a broken record, but in mainstream, pop astrology, there is FAR too much focus on the Signs. There is a very good reason why Edgar Cayce's guidance, and most of the ancients (speaking more of the west as I am much less familiar with Vedic, Chinese, etc), only focused a bit on Signs and put most of the focus on the Planetary strengths (especially by Angularity or strong connection to the Chart ruler). And we see this in modern times with the only statistical, scientific research studies that have ever found any merit in astrology, being Planetary based and NOT Sign. A good chunk of astrology being passed around in the mainstream is crap, shallow, one dimensional astrology. Why, because talking and thinking about Signs is easier than understanding all the in depth, deeper layers of the chart. Signs generally correspond to the more wavering, personality part/level of us, whereas the strongest Planets correspond more to the deeper, more Soul and consistent character parts of us. Use Signs more for young and immature Souls--especially those approaching the narcissistic type spectrum. Focus more on Planets for middle aged to older Souls. Granted, of course in both cases, both still need to be considered, but we're talking the relative weight of consideration. Sun is potentially, and at it's core, a faster vibratory symbol than Pisces. Pisces, Jupiter, and/or Neptune are the gateways, doors, or stepping stones to the Sun in all its glory--as becoming a conscious Son/Daughter of the Most High. When a Soul gets to the Sun, they become aware of the choice to leave this system of energies/dimensions to go into greater, more expanded, and faster vibratory systems (usually via Arcturus, which is like a more powerful and more refined version of our Star, the Sun).
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